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Post by Cate on Mar 24, 2020 6:36:55 GMT
Hi, this shouldn't be too long, but I need help. I'm 27 and my husband is 29. We've been married for 4 1/2 years. His sister has been my best friend since we were kindergarteners. My parents were both very messed up. My dad's been in and out of jail and my mom's been in and out of rehab. When I was 14, my best friend's parents took me in. My parents came around when they could at first, but gradually they stopped. I'm not even sure where they are right now. My best friend's family became my family. I didn't think of my husband as anything but my BFF's brother when we were kids, but when I was 20, I started having feelings for him. Then one day we we were talking and out of the blue he kissed me. And that's how it started.
I don't want to go into all the details of how we ended up here, but I'll just say everything started changing after our first anniversary, and the past year has been almost unbearable. I'm scared all of the time. I haven't told anyone because I'm afraid to lose my family. Even though they aren't actually my family, they are all I have. But it's gotten to the point that I can't go on like this anymore. 3 days ago, my husband gave me a 2nd degree burn with a hot cast iron pan. He told me it was an accident but I can't believe that anymore. He had just pulled it out of a 450-degree oven, we were arguing and he lunged at me with it in his hand. It was so bad I had to go to urgent care. I told them it was an accident and on the way home I couldn't stop crying because I was so angry at myself. My husband came with me but he waited in the waiting room. I was alone with the doctor and I still couldn't bring myself to to tell the truth.
My husband's job is considered essential so he's still going to work which means fortunately I have time to plan things while he's away. But I don't know where to start. I don't want to pack until I know exactly what I'm going to do and where I'm going to go. I want to just call up my in-laws and tell them everything but as close as I am to them, I have to keep reminding myself that they are his parents, they aren't really mine. He has told me that I'm crazy if I think they'd ever take my side over his and I'm afraid he's probably right and I'm probably going to lose them and maybe my best friend too. I have no one to turn to. I have an older brother, but he's stationed overseas. I feel so lost.
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Post by karen on Apr 1, 2020 4:01:33 GMT
Hi Cate, so sorry this is happening to you! That must have been horrible how he burned you and I don't feel that it is an accident. He knew what he was doing and if he truly didn't want to hurt you, he would have made sure he wasn't close enough to touch you with it. Plus his comments make me suspect he is abusing you. It is amazing that abusers can keep things looking "normal" for about a year into the marriage. It happens too often that they can keep up the "facade" and then they just can't anymore and the true colors start to shine through.
I know how hard it is to tell people (like your adopted family) what is happening. I am glad you came here to seek some advice and support. My first thought is, can you speak to your best friend? Can you confide in her? I ask this because your husband just didn't all of a sudden start to abuse you, meaning I don't think you are the first woman he has abused or treated badly. I wonder if he has treated your friend in somewhat of a similar way? The behaviors you are seeing have been there probably for several years and he is now showing his true colors to you.
A few things may help. There is a really good book called "Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft. He also wrote an awesome book called "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" Both are excellent resources to begin to learn more about abuse and why it happens.
Please know..none of this is your fault. You didn't cause your husband to be this way, these are behaviors that have been developing over many years. The books may help you to at least learn about what is going on. I suspect that there is more than what you are sharing, and that is perfectly ok not to share. You have reason to be concerned and to question what is going on.
You can also call the National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-7233. You can speak to a counselor and remain anonymous. They have helped out many women in your situation. Having someone to talk to can really help. Do you have a local DV center in your town/city/state? Not sure where you live, but I live in the US and my state has an excellent "House of Ruth' that offers lots of support, shelter if needed, legal advice, counseling and resources to help you start over if you are ready to do that.
Leaving is a dangerous time. Your husband is showing that being violent and hurting you is something he will do. So whatever you do next, please don't leave a paper trail or a computer trail where he can see what you are doing.
I know this is all scary, anxiety producing and traumatic. Please know I will check here frequently and help you if I can. Please don't beat yourself up. None of what he is doing is your fault and I know how hard those words are to believe. BUT THEY ARE TRUE. You did not cause this. Leaving and trying to figure out what your next step is is very hard. It is confusing and scary.
Please call the DV hotline or your local center. You can also go to the local center and they will shelter you. You don't have to live like this. Putting a plan together is a good idea and gathering information is very good. You are doing all the right things.
Take care, Karen
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Post by Cate on Apr 6, 2020 23:59:51 GMT
Hi Karen,
Thank you for your response. Just a few days after I posted, my husband found out he was being furloughed until further notice. He was supposed to work that weekend, Friday-Monday and I was planning to leave then. But he's been home since now and I hardly have any time to myself. It's getting to the point where I think I'm going to have to leave in the middle of the night, or when he's in the shower. I've had a bag packed and hid it where I'm pretty sure he won't find it. I just still don't know where to go. I can talk to my best friend and I've tried but he never leaves me alone long enough to have time to explain it to her. We don't even go to my in-laws anymore because my father-in-law is in his 60's with health issues and we don't want to risk anything. I talked to the hotline via chat but had to exit out before they could give me any information. I don't know what to do now? Call the police and have them escort me out? I have no proof of anything he's done. I told everyone the burn was an accident, even the doctors. I don't know if I could even get a restraining order and I don't know, maybe he wouldn't come looking for me but I think he might and what's to stop him?
He hasn't hurt me again, he's been acting really sweet since that day, but since we've been stuck at home together, it feels like the walls are closing in and my anxiety is over the top. I'm trying to act like everything is okay but I don't know if I can keep it up. I can tell he's starting to feel stressed too and I'm afraid I'm going to say something or do something he doesn't like and he's going to lash out. You're right that more has gone on than what I shared but it's hard to go into. I feel so ashamed for letting it go on for so long. If I had left 4 or 5 years ago when it first started, maybe it would have been easier. I'm so afraid people are going to think I'm stupid or I asked for this by staying all these years.
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Post by Cate on Apr 14, 2020 1:14:34 GMT
I can't take it anymore. He's been in my face for the last 3 days throwing accusations at me, saying I was cheating on him when he was still at work, calling me horrible names. He's been pressuring me for the last year to have a baby and I've said no because of the way things are between us, and he's been getting more and more impatient about it. Friday he tried to climb on top of me early in the morning and I pushed him off, and he's tried every day since but I just can't, and on Saturday he suggested I just pretend he's my boyfriend, or whoever I'm having an affair with. I stopped him and asked what he's talking about and he says I know exactly what he's talking about. We argued, I tried to leave and he pulled me back by the arm and I fell and hit the side of my face on the floor. He tried to say he was sorry. He said it was an accident. It seems like it's always an accident. I was furious but I told him I'd forgive him. He was really sweet for the rest of the day but then when I wouldn't have sex with him that night he said he knew I didn't mean it and he started back in about how I've been having an affair. I woke up with a bruise on my face yesterday and since then he's going back and forth between the accusations and apologies and promises that nothing like that is ever going to happen again.
I was supposed to go out tomorrow for the weekly shopping trip and I was going to go to my friend's house so she could see for herself, but he told me today that he's going to do the shopping because he doesn't want me to go out looking like this. So my plan is to call her while he's gone and tell her what is going on and ask her not to say anything to him about it until I'm safe. I'm really scared. She's never betrayed me or given me any reason not to trust her, but always in the back of my mind is the fact that he is her brother, and I don't know for certain how she'll react. I've been wanting to tell her for so long and I just hope it doesn't make things worse.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 15, 2020 9:54:12 GMT
Abusers' family members side with the abusers. 99 percent of the time. She will betray you. She will choose her brother over you. This is a hard truth but it is reality. You need to escape before you are raped into pregnancy. Abusers love to trap women with pregnancy. Abusers know they have ties to you for life if they can get you pregnant. Please, realize the risk of being raped into pregnancy is super high. Think things are bad now? Wait until there is a kid in the mix and you have to figure out custody and do co-parenting with him for the next 18 years of your life.
He knows you are not having an affair. He wants to degrade you with his false accusations. It's manipulation. It's control.
Get your stuff packed and on the phone with domestic violence shelters early in his next shift at work. Be out of there the same day. Get in that car and drive away. Yes, you'll lose your best friend, but she isn't really your best friend in the first place, given she allowed you to marry her abuser brother. Abusers don't start being abusive when only in a marriage. She knows of her brother's abusiveness. You are especially vulnerable because you have no other family. Your abuser realized this. He knew how tied you'd be to his family, HIS flesh-and-blood.
He has entrapped you. You've been burned, he's seeking to impregnate you against your will. Soon he will likely rape you into forced pregnancy. You need to get out that door as soon as possible before you are trapped for life via a child between the two of you.
DV shelters are likely full. And yet, you think it's hard now, wait until you want to flee with a child or two in tow. So, work that phone. Drive to another state's DV shelter if need be. But do it in one swoop as your computer and cell phone are likely monitored.
Remember, you are in the fight of your life. He will rape you into forced pregnancy and trap you for life. His family will take his side. You must flee with all the seriousness in the world. Don't listen to another thing he has to say. Abusers are liars, manipulators, and destroyers. He is your enemy and has been all along. Deceivers that they are, he misled you into believing he cared about you, but that has been a lie all along. Abusers are predatory people. They will never NOT be predators. It's who they are.
Remember his sister is HIS flesh-and-blood SISTER. She will choose him over you. Don't confide in her. Things will escalate. Work that phone and get out on the same day you call shelters. Do it before you are raped into pregnancy. Take photos of your burns and your bruised half of face. Get an emergency protection order if you must remain in the same state. But I'd suggest getting into that car and driving away with your still non-pregnant self. It's very, very serious. So many women are further entrapped by forced pregnancies. Raped into pregnancy is a more common practice than you might realize.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 15, 2020 10:10:18 GMT
Didn't read all that you wrote. So he isn't at work any longer. Yes, leave in the middle of the night. Drive to the police station while your face is still bruised. Plead with them to help you and take you to a DV shelter. Or keep driving to another city. Call while you're driving. Or park and call while sitting in front of a police station. Tell them you're in your car and you need to know where you can go. If you have to drive to another state, then that's how it'll be.
He will escalate. Wait until you've sustained brain injuries. That's easily a possibility. He will want to keep you silent. He will want to keep you from functioning. And his family doesn't care if he is an abuser, as they'll side with him and throw you under the bus. It's just how it works. So, you are on your own. No good will come out of seeing his sister or confiding in her. The hotline and shelter system is your best bet. They aren't perfect, but anything is better than being with him. Get out before he escalates the physical abuse to the point of you sustaining serious head injuries. Get out before you get raped into pregnancy.
Leaving in the middle of the night sounds great. Or while he is in the shower. Drive to the police station. They know where the DV shelters are located. I cannot stress how crucial it is for you to escape with your non-pregnant, not injured too bad yet, self. Things will only get worse. You'll only become more entrapped.
Most women don't report their husbands as being the ones to cause the injuries, or they claim such are accidents. Don't worry about that. You could have told the doctor but then again, it's rare for women to do such right away. By the time others are made aware, the abuse has been going on for a long, long time.
You've written here so it shows you're still strong and you've been thinking of leaving, so it shows you still have a chance at life and haven't been beaten down to the point of no return. Please get out by any means necessary. Your life is at stake.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 17, 2020 6:24:59 GMT
Ultimately, I hope you are well. I hope you have escaped. I hope you post an update, if you feel it's safe, and you wish to do so.
Bottom line is additional murders are likely due to the pandemic and the financial crisis. You realize when the abuser feels he is losing control, he is likely to become more dangerous, to escalate the abuse. So, that's my concern. What will he do to ensure your entrapment? Will it be head injuries? Raped into unwanted pregnancy? Murder-suicide route? It's unknown. You might have the best idea, HOWEVER, I urge you to also realize that part of survival of battering is denial. Denial is survival. You've likely downplayed the level of risk and danger you are in, so as to not feel so much fear. That's common and to be expected. But it also endangers you.
So, you might be thinking this is all over-reacting on my part, but now you're entrapped, during a pandemic, with a furloughed abuser who wants to force unwanted pregnancy on you, who has injured you with a cast iron pan, who bruised the side of your face, who won't let you out of the house to go shopping. I hope you disappear while he is out shopping. I hope you are bold. Drive to the police station. Call battered women's shelters from a police station's parking lot. And he has abused you for 4 or 5 years now. I hope you are safe. I hope you are well.
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Post by Cate on Apr 20, 2020 1:55:17 GMT
Hi Chelsea & Karen,
So, I left and told my friend/sister-in-law. Last week when he went to get groceries, I went to her house without calling and she freaked out when she saw my face. I told her what happened and she drove me to the hospital. It's all documented now. He was arrested and charged but he is out now. I have been told by the court advocate that he's probably not going back to jail and there's even a chance his lawyer could get the charges dropped. My best bet she said is to get a restraining order, which I did get an emergency one for 2 weeks but after that I have to ask the court to extend it. I've been at my SIL's house since. I know I shouldn't be here, but I haven't been able to find a shelter with room. He has called me once, but from an unknown number. He said he's not angry at me, he said he messed up and he deserved to be arrested. And he said he loves me and wants to work things out. I didn't say anything back, I just hung up the phone and I haven't heard from him since. I feel so on edge, I feel like something is going to happen. I thought he'd be blowing up my phone or even showing up here begging me to come home, but he hasn't. My SIL told him to stay away and he has. He hasn't even texted me except for the day I left, I guess when he came back from the store and realized I was gone. I don't know what to make of it. My SIL says she's on my side on this, but she also went out to my house to see him. She says she only went to tell him off and to warn him that he'd better leave me alone. If she had asked, I would have told her not to go, but she didn't tell me until after the fact.
I just feel like I need to find somewhere else to go. She keeps telling me she wants me to stay, she's begged me not to go. This is so hard. She has always been the first person I have turned to. But how can I ask her to choose between her brother and me? Even if she decided to do that on her own, I'd feel guilty. I'm so confused. I don't know what to do.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 20, 2020 2:41:07 GMT
Good for you, Cate! So proud of you!! His phone call was a violation of the court order. He knows this. You need to resolve to yourself that no matter what, from now on, you're going to report every single violation of the court order. You must enforce it with an iron fist.
You do need to find somewhere else to go. Your sister in law MIGHT be temporarily on your side but it will soon wear off. He can easily work her for information on you and she'll report it to him. Blood is thicker than water. He can get her to cave, so she cannot be trusted.
Get that temp order extended after the two weeks. Report the violation that has already occurred. That is an arrestable offense, I'd imagine, since you're the crime victim and there is to be no contact from him, the perp, to you, the crime victim. He cares about getting the charges dropped. That's why he is going the 'honey baby, I messed up' route. Very typical. Woo her. Sweet talk her out of charges. Get it dropped. The phone call was a test. Test to see if you'll enforce the temp. no contact order.
He may not seem it right now, but he is ticked. And there is a rage in him that is boiling. You've declared war (actually, he declared war on you long ago and you've now stood up and that's big). And there is no going back. If you relent and go back, things will get worse. The next time he attacks you, it'll be more severe. The injuries could be lifelong damage. And that's the physical stuff. You've already sustained enough emotional and psychological injuries, as no wife-beater starts out physically beating on his wife, without having first ground her down and beaten her down with words and emotional abuse and psychological terrorism.
So, warrior Cate, stay with sister-in-law for as long as you can, while actively planning and seeking other shelter. Are the battered women's shelters full? What about outside of your immediate area? Are they full, too? The advantage of going to a shelter is you'll be supported by trained staff, versus the perp's sister. And you might be strengthened in your resolve to escape the sham marriage you're currently in. They have contacts for lawyers. They have legal advocates. You need to do this stuff, anyhow, so why not be supported by trained staff while you do it? I'm assuming the shelters are full and you've called all the alternative battered women's shelters in other areas, too. Keep calling. Staying with the sister is better than going back with him. But she's not your ally. Once your face heals, things will change. He'll convince her it was an accident, a mistake, and there really wasn't much of a bruise in the first place and she bruises too easily as it is. The distortions, weaseling, manipulations, pressure, crying, etc. is already happening.
He has a lawyer. Unless it's a public defender, he's now paying thousands for legal fees. You've got a good shot of getting out. You made the jail break and thankfully the perp's sister cared a bit. That's good. It's actually shocking, but shouldn't be counted on, because it is so rare. I'm thinking she assumes things will be eventually worked out between the two of you. If perp brother goes to jail and/or loses a job, or suffers real world consequences, you'll be pressured by the sister, too, to relent and help her brother out, to not "ruin his life" and all. Don't budge an inch. It's easier said than done.
You may have married for life and taken your vows very seriously but it was a fraudulent, sham marriage. Don't be shackled to a wife-beater any longer. Now would be a most excellent time to get your divorce paperwork going and along with the restraining order, the extension of a temp/emergency order, and apply for benefits. Go to the local food shelf. Get support on housing options. It's better to apply immediately, than to wait another day because all such things take time.
I'll check again, but I'm so glad you posted again and that you are okay and on your way to freedom! Way to go, Cate. Hone your inner warrior woman. Pretend he is dead and buried. Think about how you want the rest of your life to be like.
The perp's sister isn't about to choose. Her brother is her choice. I've not seen or heard it go the other way. Ultimately, blood is blood. She won't choose you at the expense of her brother. Not in the long-term. And he won't allow her to choose you without paying a hefty price. So rely on her until you have an alternative, but work that phone and get an alternative. Right now things are in shock and the perp is feeling things out, seeing if you'll drop charges/restraining order, refuse to testify, etc. and return to him. He's going to turn super ugly once he finds out you're not going back. So, act in a warrior woman manner. And advocate only for what benefits and serves you. You alone.
Perhaps at a shelter you'll find a new friend, too, with another woman being similar to you and you can support one another. It'd be very helpful.
It's a naturally confusing time.
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Post by Chelsea on Apr 28, 2020 5:32:08 GMT
Cate,
If you find yourself back with your abuser, please don't despair. It happens to so very many. Most women find leaving to be a process. Abusers are excellent manipulators and your abuser has probably done the crying, begging, "please don't leave me, I'll never do it again, you're the most important thing in my life, I love you so much, I'm so sorry for hurting you" spiel. And he'll be very, very solicitous. And leaving is incredibly hard. Divorce, moving, job searching, homelessness, loss of support, involvement with the court system and hellacious lawyers that abusers hire. And there's a pandemic going on, too.
So, I don't know if you've made your break or if you returned. And it's up to you if you say. You owe me and Karen nothing. We both support you and wish you well. And if you did return and soon you realize it was a mistake, then please feel free to reach out again. The average number of times a battered woman attempts to leave her abuser is 7. Some are out permanently the first time. Some never do make a break for it. And with every attempt, you prove that you can do it. But you also risk severe violence, even potential death, when you leave. Same with when you stay. But abusers tend to really lose it when they suspect their victim might be leaving or did leave them.
I wish you the best, most wonderful, empowered, freely chosen life for yourself, Cate. Hope you are okay. And if you never post again, I hope that's because you made it out and you're too busy living a new life, one you carve out for yourself, according to your will, desires, preferences, interests, etc.
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Post by Cate on May 6, 2020 1:29:55 GMT
I went back and I'm so sorry, but I didn't feel like I had a choice. I haven't been able to find a place. I did find one out of state, then my car broke down, and when I went to get it fixed I found out he cut off the bank accounts. The time came to get the restraining order extended and I didn't do it, I didn't see the point because I was back with him. There is still a hearing coming up but everything is on hold right now and my case isn't a priority I guess because I had a place to stay and my husband has no criminal history. He is still maintaining it was an accident, and he's being really sweet, anytime the subject of my leaving comes up, he cries and says he can't live without me, and makes me feel so guilty. Some days I think maybe he really is trying to do better, maybe I overreacted. Other days I feel like I screwed up really badly coming back, and then not getting the restraining order extended, and I feel anxious all the time. Today has been one of those days, and he's noticed, and I can tell it makes him tense too. He told me I don't need to worry because it's going to be different this time and he's going to make everything up to me. I didn't answer and he just walked away. That was 2 hours ago and he hasn't said anything or come back in the room yet. I can't stop crying, I can't stop worrying that something is going to happen, even though the last 10 days I've been back he hasn't even raised his voice, he hasn't even bothered me for sex like he was before.
My sister-in-law did not want me to go back, she pleaded with me not to go, but I have no money, I only took out $200 after I left, and I can't live off of her. She's self-employed and has nothing coming in herself. At least here, everything is paid for, although not my car. He says we can't afford it. I know this all sounds stupid, I know being safe is more important than money. But if everything was normal, I would have already had a court hearing, my husband would have been ordered to pay me half of the money in our bank accounts, my car would be fixed, I could look for a job, and I'd probably be in a shelter. Everything is full though, and everything court-related is on hold. I feel like there is no way out.
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Post by Chelsea on May 6, 2020 12:53:05 GMT
Financial concerns are a very important matter. It's not for nothing he cut off the bank accounts. Now he is saying you can't afford your car? To continue making payments on it or pay to get if fixed? Or both? Typical. Make sure she cannot escape. Right now you've yet to have another court hearing, he is still out on bail, right? So, he is playing the "nice guy" to the hilt because he knows there will be a hearing eventually.
With shelters full, it's understandable. And the car breaking down is truly terrible timing. Perhaps he did something to it. Perhaps not. Either way, he made sure you had no funds to fix it. If he had changed, truly changed, and was truly remorseful and repenting, he'd ensure you had all the financial means you need to escape him and decide for yourself if you want to return and be his prey/punching bag/captive. He'd fix your car now that you're back. He makes sure his car works. He'd leave you alone. Instead he is manipulating you, guilt-tripping you, cutting off your avenues and means for escape.
By all means, do NOT get pregnant. And be careful not to fall under his spell of false reform. He is worried about the hearing. Wait until the criminal charges go away and then you'll see his abuser self return. He'll make you pay for it all. But not until the court hearing is had and the criminal charges are made to go away.
I don't know what SIL's living situation is, but if she has her own apartment that she is already paying rent for and you're only residing on her couch, you aren't living off of her as badly as you might think. Imagine if the tables were turned and it was her who was fleeing an abuser. You'd insist she stay with you and be glad to help her. You can go to the local food shelf and they'll supply you with food to eat. Then you're living on her couch, eating food you got from the food shelf, and applying for government assistance. She might spend some money on gas to get you to the food shelf, but that's about it. Perhaps her electric bill will increase a tad bit. That's it. That's not living off of someone. She can blame her abuser brother for impoverishing his wife. And if you've never heard of or thought about a food shelf, look in the phone book or google it for your area. Perhaps a certain church in your area runs it. Same with looking up what kind of financial assistance is available to you. There are Food Stamps, rent assistance, and other programs to financially support you.
I'm proud of you for escaping for the time that you did. So proud of you, Cate! How amazing! Good on you! And it's understandable you don't feel you have much of a choice. Most battered women have no choices. That's the entrapment of the abusers' creation. And escaping during a pandemic is all the more difficult.
Being safe is more important than money. But there is a certain level of money that is necessary to live. Money is safety to a large degree. Ultimately, God is our safety and our refuge and it by His will we live or die.
I feel for you, Cate. You are trapped. But when abuser is asleep, you can learn where things are. Find the food shelf. Find the homeless shelter. Find the government center. And if such things are hard for you to access and asking for help is hard, just reframe things in you mind. The donated food from the food shelf is your FREEDOM FOOD. The couch of your SIL is your FREEDOM COUCH. The Food Stamps you can get are your FREEDOM FUNDS. And the court paperwork are your FREEDOM FORMS awaiting for you to fill them out. And learn to live super cheap. Survive on what you get from the food bank. Did they include a little bottle of Dawn dish detergent? Well, make that your new Tide and wash your clothes with it. And see about accessing whatever funds you can, to stash away, in planning for your eventual escape.
I'm sure Karen has better info.
And the crying for hours is so, so normal. Same with the worrying. So very normal. Same with the doubt and feelings of guilt. All this is so normal, so typical, so textbook. This is what abusers do. These are some of the effects produced in victims. This is all very expected. In case he starts saying or implying you're too sensitive, or you over-reacted, or you're crazy and/or unstable, don't buy it. Don't entertain such foolishness. Your reactions and struggle is very normal for the abnormal situation.
If you are in the USA, you should be getting $1200. If you are in the UK, I don't know.
And all this that I wrote are mere thoughts of mine. Could be good advice that fits really well for you and your situation, or it may not. You're the best judge. If anything helps you, take it. If not, disregard it entirely. Simply ideas and thoughts.
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