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Post by lisa22 on Mar 2, 2018 21:26:07 GMT
This is my first time sharing my story, I am still in abusive relationship. I have been reading and servicing everything about domestic violence in the last 6 months almost everyday I think I am ready to ask for advice now. I really hope he doesn’t find my post. So I am married for 9 years, have a daughter from previous marriage, she is 20 now, she lives with me and goes to school. First marriage didn’t work out and after 4 years we split up, my baby girl was 2. I was single for 10 years, then I met my current husband online. I can not say everything was was perfect in the beginning because now I see all kinds of red flags but I felt in love. He is 15 years older then me and was very confident and seemed like he knew what he wants. 5 months later we got married and after 6 months I left my country and came to live with him. So when I landed with my daughter it was limo at the airport and flowers and red carpet, his parents came too. Maybe after 2 months everything start changing very fast. It started ABUSE ....physical emotional psychological financial you name it....he hid very well from me that he was charged with domestic violence before, his gambling addiction, his antisocial personality ... after 8 months me being in his country he invited my mom to come over for a visit, and now I realized that it was done so I won’t leave him. The abuse exalted my mom left in 6 months and there I was alone with my 13 year old daughter. So I decided to leave him...and I did went to a shelter in another city, my mom sent me money to get a cab and we left. To make it short I didn’t end up staying at shelter we lived with his ex wife on a farm got 3 months while I was waiting for subsidized housing, I did go to police and he was charged...and then bridged restraining order was arrested again ..at the end of the trail he only got 2 years of probation because his daughter was a witness of phisical abuse and she lied in court. For 7 months I lived alone with my daughter in different city. And the day of our divorce in court he start talking to me ... well that being said we came back after a year being separate...do I regret YES !!! Everything started all over again only now I was blamed for going to police, for even ex wife suing him because he didn’t pay child support for last 17 years, and so on. Since then I left 2 more times stayed at shelter those time, and still went back to him. I don’t know what’s wrong with me, why do I do it over and over again... he is self employed makes around a million a year, but gambles it all....I do not have friends as I am not allowed to go out, I work for him and he doesn’t give me any money, I don’t drive because I am not allowed, I don’t go shopping, I can’t talk to neighbors or his family because I am not allowed, nobody can come over for a visit... at least I have cell phone now. It is so much to say more and it’s hurting me every day, I am 43 and feels like I am in this marriage for 100 years.... I am planing on leaving again when he is not home, I hope I can disconnect cameras that he put outside of our house... he ruined my credit cards gambling so I have $15,000.00 debt to my name..,he has lots of debts on his own. I pray I can do it again and stay away from him forever, it’s just so hard, no job, no money, no one at all in this country to talk to. I am in Canada and I moved from Ukraine in 2009, I am just lost sometimes very very lost... he will never change, he doesn’t think anything wrong with him, he never says sorry ever even after hitting me... Please I need support...,,,in being strong not just for me and for my daughter future Thanks Lisa
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Post by karen on Mar 4, 2018 13:22:55 GMT
Hi Lisa..I am so sorry you find yourself in this situation. Your husband is clearly abusive and what he does to you is very wrong. I applaud you for leaving the times that you have. It is not easy to leave, the abuse can escalate at that time and it is very scary. You go back because you are attached to this man. It is like being addicted to cigarettes or alcohol. Very hard to break an "addiction". It is called "Stockholm Syndrome"..where we get attached to our abusers. I think there is an article on this site about it.
I am sure you are hurting, your husband sounds horrible. Can you go back to the Ukraine? Go home and be with your family?
I am not surprised at all that he was confident and charming and used so many tactics like the limo and red carpet to lure you into his web of abuse. I fell for a guy online and he was very similar to your husband. I was hooked and "in love" with him before I ever met him. I moved in with him after 2 months of dating, and the abuse started just before that. I never got hit..but the emotional abuse was traumatic. He kicked me out of his house to punish me after living together for 9 months. He tried to get me back and apologized, then when I decided not to go back, he blamed me for being the one who left. Didn't matter that he kicked me out before that. He was horrible!! He met a woman online 4 weeks later and 9 months after that they married. I suspect she is miserable.
You are already strong Lisa..even though you may not feel it. You have left several times and that speaks volumes to your inner strength! I am not surprised he lured you back in on the day of your divorce. He is very good at getting what he wants. Maybe call the Domestic Violence Hotline again and begin again. Everyday is a new opportunity to leave, a new opportunity to start fresh. Please call the hotline so you can leave as safely as possible. They will help you, they understand that we go back over and over again. It is part of being traumatized by he abuse.
I urge you to call. I would not leave your daughter behind, make sure she is involved in your planning. I admire you Lisa..you are brave, strong and smart! please call the hotline and get a safe plan to leave. I would also suggest counselling once you leave..either a support group or 1:1 counseling. That support will also help you to stay away from him. NO CONTACT once you leave. It is the best thing to help you continue to stay away from him.
We are here Lisa, please be careful on the computer. Anything we can do to help, we will.
Karen
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Post by lisa22 on Mar 4, 2018 16:46:36 GMT
Hi Lisa..I am so sorry you find yourself in this situation. Your husband is clearly abusive and what he does to you is very wrong. I applaud you for leaving the times that you have. It is not easy to leave, the abuse can escalate at that time and it is very scary. You go back because you are attached to this man. It is like being addicted to cigarettes or alcohol. Very hard to break an "addiction". It is called "Stockholm Syndrome"..where we get attached to our abusers. I think there is an article on this site about it. I am sure you are hurting, your husband sounds horrible. Can you go back to the Ukraine? Go home and be with your family? I am not surprised at all that he was confident and charming and used so many tactics like the limo and red carpet to lure you into his web of abuse. I fell for a guy online and he was very similar to your husband. I was hooked and "in love" with him before I ever met him. I moved in with him after 2 months of dating, and the abuse started just before that. I never got hit..but the emotional abuse was traumatic. He kicked me out of his house to punish me after living together for 9 months. He tried to get me back and apologized, then when I decided not to go back, he blamed me for being the one who left. Didn't matter that he kicked me out before that. He was horrible!! He met a woman online 4 weeks later and 9 months after that they married. I suspect she is miserable. You are already strong Lisa..even though you may not feel it. You have left several times and that speaks volumes to your inner strength! I am not surprised he lured you back in on the day of your divorce. He is very good at getting what he wants. Maybe call the Domestic Violence Hotline again and begin again. Everyday is a new opportunity to leave, a new opportunity to start fresh. Please call the hotline so you can leave as safely as possible. They will help you, they understand that we go back over and over again. It is part of being traumatized by he abuse. I urge you to call. I would not leave your daughter behind, make sure she is involved in your planning. I admire you Lisa..you are brave, strong and smart! please call the hotline and get a safe plan to leave. I would also suggest counselling once you leave..either a support group or 1:1 counseling. That support will also help you to stay away from him. NO CONTACT once you leave. It is the best thing to help you continue to stay away from him. We are here Lisa, please be careful on the computer. Anything we can do to help, we will. Karen
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Post by lisa22 on Mar 4, 2018 18:49:27 GMT
Hi Karen, thank you so much for reading my post, of course I can not fit it all in here how awful my lace is for the last 9 years. It means so much to me that you care and you don’t think I am crazy as I have been told almost every day by him.
I will leave with my daughter and she was involved a lot when we left last time in November 2016, I am telling her more now about what’s going on every day when she is not present. She took class domestic violence this autumn in university, and when she came home she told me that we are in ‘shit’ in real danger here. I read the book Lundy Bancroft ‘Why does he do it’ and it describes my husnand 100%. I was shocked, I think it opened my eyes and I feel like this is not happening to me, how could I allow myself to be so naive and blind. I just recently taking pictures of my bruises.
He tells me I am crazy, I need happy pills, if something bad happened ( he hit my daughter when she was 12, he hit my mom when she was here and she is 80 years old) he always says it never happened and I need to be looked up in mental clinic. He says I am his property and he paid for me...like I am an object. He says he is trying to teach me for 9 years how real wife suppost to obey and listen to the husband and I am too stupid and stubborn.
He says I am embarrassing him every time I left because he is a respected businessman and I am nothing. He says I will not find a job anywhere but I am good enough to run his office and do 2 people’s job now, because he fired office stuff to save money 4 years ago He is super jealous and possessive, he doesn’t let me to talk even to his youngest son who is 27. He spends all his time with me 24/7 or he would call like 20 times in 3 hours for example. I don’t have friends but even my daughter is not allowed to have girlfriends over at the house.
He says I will be looking behind my shoulder every single day till the rest of my life if I leave him again or something really bad can happen to me or my girl. He even says he would hire someone to hurt and rape me and her.
I am Canadian citizen, and my daughter, Valerie, feels like home here, she loves it here, she grew up here, her life and future is here, I just can’t get it why police doesn’t seem like want to help me at all.... maybe because I left and came back, I don’t know.
All I wanted is a family, I was single to 10 years after my first divorce, I had a house, irs burned down now because it’s war in Ukraine, I had a very good paying job, I had good friends and loving family and now I am distroied, I feel useless and no self esteem.
He doesn’t let me to go get a job because I must help him with his business and as a wife I shouldn’t get paid because I live in his house and he buy food for us. I do not have allowances, groceries he buys and if he takes me and I ask for something he would just yell or walk out of the store and leave everything in a cart.
He locked me out of the house many times, changed internet password so I can’t talk to my mom on skype or my daughter can’t do homework, disconnected cable tv for last 2 years because I don’t behave like he says.
He doesn’t do drink or do drugs he only gambles but no one knows how much he is making and that is all gone. He distrtoied my possessions, he throw objects at me constantly, he makes me to say sorry all the time after yelling and screaming at me, everything that goes wrong my fault.
I can go on and on I realized I am not myself anymore and what example I am give my girl for her future relationships. I am 43 and it sucks to start from zero and have nothing and no one here to support but it’s ok I hope I can do it, even I tried 3 times before.
Karen, thank you again for your support I will try calling hot line when he is not around. I am so happy and it is very helpful that I found this forum. I am reading and learning lots here that I am not alone and if others women did it so can I.
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Post by karen on Mar 6, 2018 3:46:53 GMT
Hey Lisa, yes you can do it, you have done it and you are so strong and brave. Please know..none of this is your fault. You are not causing him to be the way he is. It is his responsibility for his own behavior. He could treat you differently if he chose. That fact that he hit you, your daughter and your mother tells me he is a horrible person and deserves to rot.
Calling the hotline would help you to get a plan in place that is safe for you to leave. AND..you have to go far enough away so he can't find you. I think your local DV center is the best place for you to start. The police should help, but sometimes they are more the problem than the solution. The other thing to really consider is NO CONTACT..once you leave, you have to stay gone this time. AND NOT EVER HAVE CONTACT with him again..EVER. He is so detrimental to your well being. AND it is not easy to become unattached to people like him.
You had so many hopes and dreams and he has stomped all over them like dirt under his shoe. You deserve so much better. He tells you all those horrible mean things to try and punish you and control you. He thinks that is the way you deserve to be treated. "I bought you, I paid for you"..REALLY? KARMA..that is all I can say is I hope he gets what he has coming to him someday. Men like him really deserve to suffer.
You don't have to live like this. AND please don't blame yourself, honestly, you have done nothing wrong. How did you let this happen? You didn't. You fell in love with someone who appeared to be wonderful, who promised you the life for you and your daughter that you had hoped for. What he did was so cruel, he lured you in with empty promises and lies that are the worst kind. Please don't beat yourself up for his bullying.
If you can, really call a hotline and work on a plan to leave. I would not speak to him unless you absolutely have to. Be civil to keep the peace, but just don't talk to him. I know you are not going to be able to do anything to please him, so perhaps just be silent and only speak when spoken to. AND just watch him and what he is doing. He behaviors will be predictable. What you choose to do, will be just that. What YOU choose. You don't have to believe anything he tells you. I can tell you it is all lies. He doesn't own you, he should pay you and if he hits you I would call the hotline and get to safety.
I wish I could do more for you. You are not alone. Anything we can do here to help we will. But please know..the hotline and your local Domestic Violence Center or Women's Aid Center is your best option for immediate help and assistance. I urge you to get a plan in place, the safest you can be and please be smart and careful. Abusers can be at their worst if they think their victims are leaving.
You are very brave and smart Lisa. Please stay safe. Delete this page from your computer so he can't find it. AND if you call the hotline, somehow delete the number from your phone or use a pay phone so he can't find it. Stay safe Lisa. I am thinking of you and sending you the best luck that can happen!
Karen
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Post by lisa22 on Mar 6, 2018 14:26:44 GMT
Hi Karen, I am so happy that I found this place, you have no idea what it means to me. Thank you so much for your support!
I use my phone to write, I would never do the same mistake again like before he was reading my messages to my friends. I am very careful this time. I just found a great place online yesterday in my city they offer free consultation with lawyer, domestic violence advocates, social services and physiologist. Just need to make excuse to get out of the house which is really hard.
You are so right, he is a monster and I guess you never see it coming, I realized it doesn’t matter rather you meat someone online or in real life. Now I know what I don’t want in life and I don’t want to give a bad example to my daughter. I don’t want to be told how to talk how to look when to go to bed what to watch on tv and even when to have sex because it’s “wife’s job”
Yesterday he throw one litter mayo jar at my back and I was all covered in it, have a bruise on my lower back, and then he said say sorry go on your knees and say sorry. I didn’t I am just trying and it’s really hard to keep calm till I have a plan in place. My daughter is finishing this year of school in April and I hope then we are gone. I want to rent small storage unit and she can bring some of our stuff there so he doesn’t notice. Nothing special but some sentimental things since my house burned down back home and some clothes
Karen, you are so right about no contact, I did it for almost a year when I left first time, and I had restraining order but he was still contacting me and cops didn’t care. Only one time I was so mad and I complained then he was arrested and spent 4 days in jail. But now looking back I am gonna get it again for sure and every time he tries to contact I will complain to cops because he is dangerous. And I don’t give a shit if he makes lots of money, I am human too and I have right to be free. He calls me stupid doll with no brain, well I guess now I grow some brain now and I am gonna protect myself.
I am just not sure if I have give statement to police again, it’s so hard I’ve been there before nothing really changed except I got 2 years protection order. If you could give me advice on it I would really appreciate it, and will also ask at that place see what they advice me.
Even I read so much about domestic violence I still don’t understand how anyone be so cruel, like he had no soul, no emotions and no heart. Maybe I will never understand it , I can’t cry anymore, I just want to be free and live normal life like I had before. I still believe there are many good people and even I am older now I will find my happiness later. I am not scared of living at a shelter and taking minimum wage job or suffer financially which I will I just want to be free even to talk to my daughter when I want not when he allows me.
Thank you Karen for care and support it means world to me. Lisa
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Post by karen on Mar 9, 2018 5:23:37 GMT
Hi Lisa, that place you found with the advocates and legal advice, it sounds like a really good place. I hope you can get there without him being aware. I know they will help you. Getting a restraining order is a good option as well. I never went that far with my ex-husband. His threats were all verbal and has never really made an effort to come after me. I don't know much about the orders, but I believe if you have one, you can call anytime he violates it and have him arrested. At least it gives you some protection. We have to be smart as well and by that I mean where ever you go, you watch your back. Staying off social media, not answering his texts or his e-mails or phone calls and keeping your whereabouts to yourself. These "monsters"(great word, I agree), are dangerous and very sneaky. They know how to get information. I blocked many people on social media so he wouldn't see anything that was going on in my life. I didn't want him to know anything about my life. I would invest in some pepper spray or a small can of Mace. If he becomes physically violent, you will have a way to defend yourself. At least delay him to hurt you more if you spray him in the eyes.
Stupid doll? Sure, call you names, he is gonna get surprised ! You have brain and a pretty great one from what I can tell. He shouldn't underestimate you.
We find ourselves in domestic violent relationships completely unaware until we are "hooked" and stuck. We don't realize what is happening because we believe that they love us, how can they claim to love us and be so harmful. Because there are some really mean and evil people in this world. I used to believe that there was "good" in everyone. I no longer believe that, and I no longer blindly trust people. Like you, I have done a lot of reading on domestic violence and I feel that I have a good understanding of it. I can spot those types of people and it makes me feel stronger to know that I know what an abuser looks like. It kind of makes me feel a little protected in that I won't allow those people in my life.
Try not to lose your faith in human beings. We all have flaws.
Him throwing that jar at you is so WRONG! I would try and keep the peace, but I know not that
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Post by lisa22 on Mar 14, 2018 14:50:23 GMT
Hi Karen, thank you again for your support, I would definitely stick to your advice but sometimes I just can’t control situation. He gets mad within a second and out of blue. I still try to keep piece till we leave, he actually told me the other day that I am planning something and that’s why I don’t react to all his comments and verbal abuse. He told me if I am going to leave again he will pay someone to pretend to be my boyfriend and stash drugs in purse later if I ever leave him again. I have never done drugs in my entire life but I will be watching my back till the rest of my life I think.
I think the hardest part of all of this is how to stay away and don’t go back, I feel like I am brainwashed. When I left him in March 2011 first time I still came back a year later. He moved on very fast when I left and found a girlfriend in 3 weeks, she moved on in 2 weeks but after 4 months she left him, from what I heard he was abusing her as well. After a year being away I had no contact with him because I had restraining order and blocked him and all of his family everywhere on social media. I will definitely do it again after I leave.
Maybe something really wrong with me and he right when he says I am crazy phyco I just don’t know why I keep coming back to him. Maybe because I am scared to be a bad parent not able to take care of my daughter on my own, also she is 20 now and she has part time job and goes to university. I met him when she was 11 and put her through hell in last 9 years and it’s totally my fault. She is my everything, my life I don’t want her to repeat my mistakes.
I don’t want to sound like a child but for adult with university education me keep going back to him doesn’t seems to be logical. I keep reading every day about domestic violence and try to sink in all of it in my head and remember he will never change. This is not how I want to leave my life. I was told I am ugly, stupid, no one will never want me, too old to find someone, can’t get a job to support myself.
I realize it’s hard for me to get a job and on top of it he ruined my credit cards with 15 grand in debts but my guts telling me every day run before it’s too late, run before you loose yourself completely. What I realized for sure I am not gonna trust anyone anymore blindly. I made a check list in my head what is acceptable for me and I know my boundaries. My family and my friends back home think I can do it that I am strong enough but I am not anymore I cry only at night when no one can see. Sometimes I just want to scream of the top of my lungs I need help!
I know what I need to do very clear and logical just leave him but at the same time I am scared to go back again. I just don’t know how to do it, detached myself from him emotionally forever. I sound like a mess right now.
Karen please if you have any thoughts about it I will follow your advice, I trust you because you have been there. Thank you, Lisa
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Post by karen on Mar 15, 2018 1:54:46 GMT
HI Lisa, I can tell you are in a really tough situation. I can only suggest you call a National Hotline or go to your local Domestic Violence Center and seek help. Leaving..as you know..is not easy and it can be down right dangerous. Staying safe is the MOST important thing you can do. Doing this alone is not recommended or easy. Getting support is what I think is best.
I also think if you feel brainwashed..it is probably because the amount of abuse that has been thrown your way is astronomical. You have been traumatized, over and over and over again. It is a "cycle" that is incredibly difficult to break, but it is not impossible. Feelings and logic don't go together. What we think and what we feel are very different things and they are NOT connected by any means. Yes, it is not logical to stay with someone who is so hurtful towards you. But, mentally we become attached to our abusers, it is like we are addicted and after all you have been through, it is very understandable to feel like you cannot break that attachment. It is called "Stockholm Syndrome". There is an article on this forum about it.
At some point, I would also highly recommend finding a counselor. Counseling is one of the best things "victims" of abuse can do for themselves. We have to come to an understanding of WHY we are attached to these horrible people. Because, there is a really good chance that we believe what the abusers say to us. We believe that we are the problem, that we are crazy, that we caused them to hit us or manipulate us or control us, that we are stupid and ugly. WE are the only ones who can change those beliefs. Counseling will help you to start to see things differently. It takes a HUGE amount of energy and self discipline to change our pattern of how we think and how we see things. It takes a lot of time and self reflection to change. BUT..IT IS SO WORTH IT. Counselling is the best way to help you begin to change those thought processes. AND we have to give ourselves the time and dedication to make those changes. AND..it is very hard to do..but NO CONTACT is what is needed in order to break away.
I have been there yes, and it took everything I had to break away. The "love" I had for the abusers in my life has changed to disgust. I had to learn and work through my own feelings and then I had to come to a level of acceptance that these men who were in my life were not who I believed them to be. I had to "practice" thinking that, literally over and over and over again. If our brains believe that we are not worthy of anyone's love because the abusers tell us "over and over and over" again, then we need to learn how to tell ourselves "over and over and over" again that we are worthy. We have to change the "self talk" patterns that we have learned over our lifetime.
I went through counselling and I learned and I worked on it and I practiced it and I did everything I could to change that thought pattern. AND I am still not through changing that thought pattern. I am in a new relationship with a man I love, but I don't trust that he isn't going to hurt me. I don't trust myself that I won't ignore the "red" flags. AND there are some at times. I am terrified of being abused again and even more scared of missing the signs that the guy is not healthy for me. I work on it all the time. I am not done by any means. BUT..I continue to look at my abusers as people I will NEVER let into my world again. I fight with myself everyday to stay clear of them. I am tempted to look at their social media profiles, I am tempted to focus on them and think about all the "what ifs"..but I KNOW it is not healthy for me and I fight it. Just like an alcoholic fights everyday not to take even a sip of alcohol.
Please contact a National Hotline and talk to a counselor about how to get a safe plan in place so you can leave if that is what you want to do. You left before, and it sounds to me like you have the courage, the strength, and the smarts to be successful. Don't get in the way of yourself. Meaning, don't fight yourself. Your gut is telling you what you want to do. Change your "self talk" and say "I can do this, I don't have to live this way and I will be successful." Tell yourself, "Leaving is terrifying, but staying is downright life threatening".
It will be ok. Get help and don't do this by yourself. The National Hotlines and local DV Centers are there for this very reason. The very fact that DV Centers exist is because ABUSE is VERY REAL..let them do their job and reach out to them. It is free and they will help you to take the steps you need to go forward.
I know he is telling you horrible things. Please know that what he is doing he is doing on purpose. That isn't love, the only thing he loves is HIM. He is going to bother you as much as he can because he wants to control you, he wants to manipulate you and he gets his kicks from abusing you. Don't give him what he wants. Find a way to be safe and smart.
Take deep breaths, make sure you sleep well, drink water, take care of your body and your mind. Those are your "tools" to help you move forward.
We are here Lisa, keep checking in.
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Post by lisa22 on Mar 18, 2018 23:48:51 GMT
Hi Karen, first of all I am so grateful for your support and understanding. I will follow your advice and call hotline and I was also thinking to call shelter where we stayed last time in November 2016, I am just feeling guilty because I didn’t listen to their advice and went back to him. Some days I feel like I can leave him and some days like I am terrified that I go back again.
You are right Karen, I need counseling, I can’t deal with it myself, it’s like addiction even worst, I try to think about it like it’s a cancer and I need to fight it. I am sure when I leave next time shelter will help me, maybe there is a free counseling of some kind because I can’t afford to pay for one. I am even considering to file another police report if he doesn’t leave us alone and from experience we’ve had already he won’t. Next year my is a graduating from university and I think we can even move to a different city but for now 100% I will stay no contact, I will block every single person related to him on social media. And I will be persistent with police if he tries to contact me which he will. Everything I have already done in 2011 I will do it again all over again. I know it will be so hard even now thinking of it, I have no idea how I did it back then all alone and terrified in new country.
It is a circle and the more time passes the more dangerous it gets. I try to keep it quiet like you said talk only when he asks me for something, I just can not control it anymore he constantly keep asking what am l thinking about, what’s in my head, if I am planing on leaving again and so on. Stupid me again today I asked him if I can go get a job, OMG he was yelling and yelling for half an hour. It feels like he can’t talk like a human anymore just constantly yelling at me and name calling. He said if I want a job outside of his business I need to get the f...k out of his house now. I will never talk about again I swear.
When I was asking to get drive licence he told me he wasn’t gonna pay fir it or buy a car or pay insurance or pay for gas, I told him when I get a job I will pay him back, it was a NO every time. He didn’t let me to go to college or take English classes not that I needed it but I wanted to make friends. We leave like low income family even he makes on average 700 thousand a year. He doesn’t do drugs or drink only gambles I mean everything all his income, every week sometimes 2-3 times a week, never ever he stayed away from casino for more then 2 weeks when he had no money obviously. Nobody in his family knows how much he is makes and that is all gone to casino. I am not gonna tell them because it will back fire at me at the end of the day he is their family not me. They will believe him, his lies how much money he spent on us. They believe I lied to cops when we left first time, sure, cops stupid they just believed me and my kid, she was terrified of him and testified in separate room with tv screen in it from court room with children advocate by her side, against him in 2011.
Last time we left in November 2016 we stayed at shelter for 11 days, I got lucky he was gambling and shelter had a room for us that day. My daughter even got me a job at MacDonalds, i started to work there and he start sucking me in back slowly, telling me I can’t afford to survive on my own with min wage, I can’t be selfish and that my daughter needs to study more instead of working part time and helping me. So I listened to this shit and beloved him and we went back, also she didn’t want to go back I talked her in. Also he manipulated me into quiting my job.
I need to start somewhere here to work because I can’t put him as my reference on my resume for the last 9 years because he will turn everything into shit and I don’t want him to know where I work. I will worry about it later I guess, if you have any suggestions Karen I will appreciate it. Also he was asking me to sign up pre nap agreement lately I said no, I realize I won’t get anything but I am not doing it, just because I was told to it as usual. He is smart, sneaky and very manipulative I know what he is capable of. But I am also the only one who knows what’s going on here, and how much debts he really has, how much taxes he owes to government and everyone else in business.
All I want just to be left alone, disappear from him, his rage, his hoovering, his control and manipulation as you said Karen I am telling myself from now on I can do it, I deserve better,I am a good person, it’s not my fault, I have a big heart and I love helping people, am i gonna trust again same way I did before probably not, in time maybe not sure. I am not so naive anymore. I don’t want to be used anymore, I don’t want to be blamed anymore for every single thing that goes wrong in his life, I am not responsible for his gambling addiction that he had all his life and hid from me till I moved here. I need to learn how to take care of myself which I never done after we got married.
Of course he doesn’t hit me every week, only humiliate me, talking like I am a child, like I have no brain or memory it’s so hard to be here every day feels like enternity. “Do as you told, behave, you are my property, I paid for you,shut the f..k up nobody interested in you talking f..ng c..t, Russian bitch(even I am Ukrainian) and so much more every single day. He even changed passwords everywhere to Russian bitch, I have to type this shit every day to sign in business related stuff, how crazy it is? I feel like I am going crazy and I can’t breath here.....I just really hope shelter won’t judge me and will be supportive because I have no where to go, I am terrified to be homeless this is my biggest reason why I am still here and why I come back to him.
Karen take care of yourself, even we are just talking online I feel very comfortable and open to share with you. Be safe, hugs Lisa
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Post by karen on Mar 20, 2018 2:14:21 GMT
Hey Lisa, it is ok to call the hotline or the shelter and see if they have space available to help you. I know you feel guilty, but you did take their advice, you stayed gone for over a year! That is an accomplishment, you were brave and strong and that took a lot of energy to leave like you did. None of this is your fault and if you don't want to live your life like this any longer, then don't.
The hotline can help you to find a safe way for you and your daughter to leave. They can also get you connected with a counselor. It is risky to leave, but as you know, it can be the best thing for you. I know it is scary. All the feelings you are having are very understandable. Getting away from him will allow you to be able to focus on yourself and begin to heal from all the abuse he has put on you.
Take one thing at a time, perhaps focus on calling the hotline, begin to get a plan in place that keeps you safe. Start with that. Then, begin to see if a shelter is available and what to do after that. Counselling is usually available at the DV centers and they can help with searching for a job and eventually a home. So, try not to get overwhelmed with everything all at once.
He sounds like a horrible person and I truly hope you can get away from him and stay away. You are smarter, you are wiser and you have learned many lessons to last you a lifetime.
Starting with the hotline or the shelter sounds like a really good place to start. The most important thing is to stay safe, he is dangerous and can really hurt you if he thinks you are leaving. They won't judge you at the shelter or on the hotline,they are there to help and they know how difficult this is.
Keep checking in here and letting us know how you are doing. It is going to get better Lisa, there is a light at the end of the very dark tunnel you find yourself in. Keep walking towards it, it may not be easy to see right now, but the light is there. Trust yourself to keep going forward.
Karen
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Post by lisa22 on Mar 22, 2018 1:03:35 GMT
Hi Karen, as usual you are here for me, some days I just feel so messed up in my head and don’t even know if it all worth it. Sounds completely stupid, what if he is right and I can’t survive on my own or I truly deserve to be abused. He tells me I love it....when he calls me all those nasty words, when he talks about my family and friends shit all the time. He even says he must hit me or break something in the house so I shut the f.. k up. I guess I am just st so tired of thinking about all of this. My family is constantly asking me when exactly I am leaving, I don’t know when, there are so many if’s And I have to plan lots and be ready when the day comes I just go, just leave within 2-3 hours. Every single day I am making sure that I am strong in my mind and this is the last time I am leaving but my family they don’t see it, don’t understand how it feels.
I feel so exhausted sometimes, just can’t function at all, I can just sit and look at the window, keep playing over and over again in my head what to do, how to do and when. Tomorrow finally he is allowing to stay home and he will be gone to work all day, I am gonna call shelter first and then hotline. That’s the plan for now. I barely have any time alone here, he wants my presents 24/7 , I can’t even go to bed when I want. I remember how it feels yo be free and do what you want.
Karen, your words just warmth up my heart, thank you for your support, I’ll keep you updated how my phone calls go tomorrow. Hugs, Lisa
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Post by karen on Mar 25, 2018 15:53:40 GMT
Hi Lisa, how are you doing today?
He is not right, by the way. You have left and been on your own before, you can do it. I see an inner strength in you that will help you go forward and find the happiness you so deserve. All those things he does is because he really believes that being nasty towards you is what you need so he can control you. He is a Narcissist. He ONLY cares about HIM.
Families don't always see it, they see the "nice, charming" guy. He is very careful to make sure he looks good to his peers and the neighbors and your family. My family was shocked to learn of the tactics my ex-husband would use to manipulate me. They finally got it after I explained it to them several times. Everyone around me thought my ex-husband was this great guy..NO HE WASN"T. He was very good at manipulating those around us to make himself look like a good husband and a good father.
Lisa, you deserve to be free, you deserve to be happy and to be able to go to bed when you want, to eat what you want, to make your own money and live the life YOU want. I am thinking of you and sending you HUGS and luck, hoping you find the next step for you to be free of your husband and his hatefulness.
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Post by lisa22 on Apr 7, 2018 15:12:12 GMT
Hi Karen, I have some good news, i was able to talk to shelter where we stayed last time, they put me on a waiting list but also told me in case of emergency I can still come they will figure something out. I was surprised they remembered me, was asking about my daughter and her school. The stuff is great, I am lucky at least with that.
I am just terrified with all debts I have and have no idea how I am gonna pay it back at all. I also talked with my daughter about it, she offered if I could stay for another year after she graduates she will be able to help me with money, I just don’t know if I can and you never know when he will get physical again. As for now I am trying your advice talking only when I talked to, it’s pissing him off. I can clearly see how much he crave from reaction from me after every insult, every abusive comment.
Recently he started again telling my daughter that I have cancer and I’ll die and I am not telling her because I don’t want her to worry about me. That’s bulshit, I told her not to listen. He is now trying to f..k with her head because I just try to ignore him as much as I can. How sick and heartless can this man be, he is 59 and saying staff like this to her, he knows I am the only family she has here. I had to reasure her that I am fine. She said she learns this stuff, what these people can do and say, in school but still worried about me. It’s just makes me sick.
Last two weeks, he didn’t leave me alone even for 10 min, I think he suspects something, it is exhausting to pretend and play this role. I was reading a lot online I try to read at least 15 min every day about domestic violence to keep it fresh in my head that nothing will change, I need to leave him and stay away. But the fear of being homeless just doesn’t leave me alone and now I was thinking lately this is the reason I keep coming back to him. Guilt also, I am a people pleaser and I feel responsible for many people, my daughter first of all, I don’t want her to suffer meaning thinking about money more then her school, she is smart and doing so great every year. My mom, my sister and my niece they are dependent on me, I send them money to rent apartment so they stay away from war zone, it is still a war going on there. The only one thing changed for me I don’t feel anymore that I am responsible for this marriage, for his needs, his feelings or his future.
On one hand I just want to disappear like yesterday just walk away at the door and don’t look back, on the other hand I feel stack here for so many reasons, or maybe I just make excuses for myself and I am useless and codependent now. Karen, I love how you say, one day you couldn’t stay any longer and it was stronger then the feeling of staying even for your kids. Just trying to survive every day here.
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Post by karen on Apr 7, 2018 19:33:53 GMT
Hey Lisa, your good news sound really GOOD! That is so cool that they remembered you and that you are on the waiting list. THAT is a step in a good direction it sounds like!
Being in debt is scary, but I look at it as something that I can work on later. It is there and it will take time to resolve, but perhaps if you can get a job at some point it will help. Everyone is in debt of some kind. It is rare that people don't have debt.
I can understand that others are dependent on you financially. That is really hard, knowing that what you do can and will affect others.
You are not responsible for him at all. It can be a wonderful feeling of being "free", to not feel that responsibility of the marriage, his future and his feelings. You were not put on this earth to cater to him.
To me, I see your daughter and you as your two greatest strengths. I am not surprised he is trying to hurt your daughter knowing that it will get back and hurt you. My ex-husband threatened to purposely mess up my daughter's financing for her to go to school so in turn she would hate me. I was so angry at the thought of him so carelessly hurting her to get at me. That is why they are JERKS. What kind of man does that? One is who is not a "man" by any means, he is an ABUSER, and a JERK on so many levels. He is the kind of person I would not want anything to do with.
You can walk away whenever you feel you are ready. That feeling of being free is there waiting for you to grab it. It will be worth it, it may not be easy to get it, but it will be worth it.
Happy for your good news Lisa..it is really good!
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