Post by stu on Feb 28, 2017 7:25:43 GMT
hi, im new to this so please forgive any rambling etc. just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences to me and can give me some advice.
i grew up in a home where my dad would use violence and threats of such as a means of maintaining control. he would often smash up furniture/doors etc; violence-wise, when he really lost it he would strangle and pin to floor/wall etc. he had a very charismatic personality and would behave unbelievably different around people outside of the family. (except on one or two occasions when people have dared to challenge his opinion, one time attacking someone with a golf club).
he was big on name calling too, different and specific ones for each family member. my names centered around being spineless, worthless and such. the name calling was never done in temper, rather he would call us over to sit down with him at the table and explain to us in a very calm way why he was calling us particular names.
just like all the experts say, acting out periods would often be followed by honeymoon periods of present buying and things.
my mum and two brothers were obviously scared of him, like i was; but unlike me, they absolutely adored him and craved his affection. whenever he did anything horrible they would excuse him saying he was tired/run down etc, just looking forward to the good times again.
my biggest regret was never saying or reporting anything as i was growing up. one specific time i remember my dad strangling my mum, and i just literally sat and watched, then when it was over i just went to bed, i cant believe i froze and didnt help or anything! i still feel really guilty about it and sometimes cant stop replaying it in my mind.
about 5 years ago (when i was 25), i had my own home and was married, my dad had quite a bad episode: he'd smashed a load of stuff. my middle brother had been signed off with depression and was on 24 hour suicide watch, my dad attacked him with such force that he broke the back door down, my youngest brother ended up coming to mine at 4 in the morning. thats when i decided enough was enough so told my dad he should behave better towards everybody. he didnt take it well.
it was so wierd, he said all of the things he'd been doing over the years had been done by me! i was so gobsmacked i didnt know what to say. anyway, the next day i got an email from him saying that my behavior towards him was unacceptable and if it carried on he would no longer view me as his son. i replied by saying that his behaviour towards his family was unacceptable and if it carried in i would go to the police.
(sorry to go on about all this, i just wanted to set the scene for my advice!)
i assumed at this point my mum, brothers and i would all stick together, but they all distanced themselves from me. life goes on as it always has done for them. i still worry about them, i see them from time to time, and when i do its obviously quite awkward. My dad has said things to other friends and relatives about how i dont speak anymore and ive gone funny with the family-even blaming my wife for it. When ive started to explain whats been happening by saying things like "his violence got too much for me", they have just said things like "but he's your dad", and "surely things werent that bad".
Actually there's more to it than violence. my dad also did some pretty weird stuff too. For instance as we were growing up he used do "play a game" where he'd get my brothers to lay on there backs and show their bumholes. this became such a habit that its like an in-family-joke, there are even specific words that my dad even now will use to make my brothers laugh. as we were growing up they just thought it was funny, and even now they dont seem to view it as serious. when i told my mum she just said "oh you boys, what are you like you mucky pups". Another thing my dad would like to do is pin us down, stick his finger up his bum, then force his finger into our mouths. one time he did this to a school friend and made him sick. we never spoke again, but i cant believe the police werent involved that time, because he told everyone we knew how weird my dad was! i find all this stuff really embarrassing, i only broke down and told my wife recently. i dont know if this was a sexual thing or not. ive always felt that, just like the violence it was more about being in control, and getting a kick out of getting people to do obscene things and getting away with it, but who knows.
now im older, im also really angry with my mum. i had always been a sounding board for her with any problems she was having with my dad and viewed myself as some kind of protector. looking back though, all she was bothered about was making my dad happy. she would tell me all kinds of things about him forcing her to have three-somes, be filmed, forced to have sex etc (those conversations with my mum started aged 7), but then once he was in a good mood again it was as if nothing had happened. she was ok with her kids growing up in a violent environment, not once talking about it with us, offering any sort of protection, or even (in private!) disagreeing with the names he called us! in fact the point that i stood up to my dad was triggered by my mum asking me to have a word with my brothers not to go to the police, saying its our duty to keep him happy! i think she viewed herself as some kind of elite home maker, if we could survive this we must be a really close, strong family!
Right now i get texts off my mum every couple of months with pictures of my dad with family or friends! it really belittles what we've all been through, and what he's done. just like she's always done!
so here are my questions.....
1) What is the best thing to say to well meaning friends and relatives who ask whats going on? i really dont like talking about anything, but it pees me off that they think ive fallen out with my dad over something petty. how much detail should i give and what words should i use?
2) Also, ive never confronted my dad about the weird stuff, my worry is other people not taking me seriously. if they make excuses for my dad when i hint that he's a bit on the violent side, what are the chances of being believed that he nearly killed my mum, and had some kind of bumhole perversion!?
3) Has anyone else found that their siblings don't want anything to do with them over standing against violent parents?
4) It feels like the older i get the worse i feel about everything-is that normal?
Please let me know if you have had similar happen and how you've coped coz its driving me a bit crazy!
i grew up in a home where my dad would use violence and threats of such as a means of maintaining control. he would often smash up furniture/doors etc; violence-wise, when he really lost it he would strangle and pin to floor/wall etc. he had a very charismatic personality and would behave unbelievably different around people outside of the family. (except on one or two occasions when people have dared to challenge his opinion, one time attacking someone with a golf club).
he was big on name calling too, different and specific ones for each family member. my names centered around being spineless, worthless and such. the name calling was never done in temper, rather he would call us over to sit down with him at the table and explain to us in a very calm way why he was calling us particular names.
just like all the experts say, acting out periods would often be followed by honeymoon periods of present buying and things.
my mum and two brothers were obviously scared of him, like i was; but unlike me, they absolutely adored him and craved his affection. whenever he did anything horrible they would excuse him saying he was tired/run down etc, just looking forward to the good times again.
my biggest regret was never saying or reporting anything as i was growing up. one specific time i remember my dad strangling my mum, and i just literally sat and watched, then when it was over i just went to bed, i cant believe i froze and didnt help or anything! i still feel really guilty about it and sometimes cant stop replaying it in my mind.
about 5 years ago (when i was 25), i had my own home and was married, my dad had quite a bad episode: he'd smashed a load of stuff. my middle brother had been signed off with depression and was on 24 hour suicide watch, my dad attacked him with such force that he broke the back door down, my youngest brother ended up coming to mine at 4 in the morning. thats when i decided enough was enough so told my dad he should behave better towards everybody. he didnt take it well.
it was so wierd, he said all of the things he'd been doing over the years had been done by me! i was so gobsmacked i didnt know what to say. anyway, the next day i got an email from him saying that my behavior towards him was unacceptable and if it carried on he would no longer view me as his son. i replied by saying that his behaviour towards his family was unacceptable and if it carried in i would go to the police.
(sorry to go on about all this, i just wanted to set the scene for my advice!)
i assumed at this point my mum, brothers and i would all stick together, but they all distanced themselves from me. life goes on as it always has done for them. i still worry about them, i see them from time to time, and when i do its obviously quite awkward. My dad has said things to other friends and relatives about how i dont speak anymore and ive gone funny with the family-even blaming my wife for it. When ive started to explain whats been happening by saying things like "his violence got too much for me", they have just said things like "but he's your dad", and "surely things werent that bad".
Actually there's more to it than violence. my dad also did some pretty weird stuff too. For instance as we were growing up he used do "play a game" where he'd get my brothers to lay on there backs and show their bumholes. this became such a habit that its like an in-family-joke, there are even specific words that my dad even now will use to make my brothers laugh. as we were growing up they just thought it was funny, and even now they dont seem to view it as serious. when i told my mum she just said "oh you boys, what are you like you mucky pups". Another thing my dad would like to do is pin us down, stick his finger up his bum, then force his finger into our mouths. one time he did this to a school friend and made him sick. we never spoke again, but i cant believe the police werent involved that time, because he told everyone we knew how weird my dad was! i find all this stuff really embarrassing, i only broke down and told my wife recently. i dont know if this was a sexual thing or not. ive always felt that, just like the violence it was more about being in control, and getting a kick out of getting people to do obscene things and getting away with it, but who knows.
now im older, im also really angry with my mum. i had always been a sounding board for her with any problems she was having with my dad and viewed myself as some kind of protector. looking back though, all she was bothered about was making my dad happy. she would tell me all kinds of things about him forcing her to have three-somes, be filmed, forced to have sex etc (those conversations with my mum started aged 7), but then once he was in a good mood again it was as if nothing had happened. she was ok with her kids growing up in a violent environment, not once talking about it with us, offering any sort of protection, or even (in private!) disagreeing with the names he called us! in fact the point that i stood up to my dad was triggered by my mum asking me to have a word with my brothers not to go to the police, saying its our duty to keep him happy! i think she viewed herself as some kind of elite home maker, if we could survive this we must be a really close, strong family!
Right now i get texts off my mum every couple of months with pictures of my dad with family or friends! it really belittles what we've all been through, and what he's done. just like she's always done!
so here are my questions.....
1) What is the best thing to say to well meaning friends and relatives who ask whats going on? i really dont like talking about anything, but it pees me off that they think ive fallen out with my dad over something petty. how much detail should i give and what words should i use?
2) Also, ive never confronted my dad about the weird stuff, my worry is other people not taking me seriously. if they make excuses for my dad when i hint that he's a bit on the violent side, what are the chances of being believed that he nearly killed my mum, and had some kind of bumhole perversion!?
3) Has anyone else found that their siblings don't want anything to do with them over standing against violent parents?
4) It feels like the older i get the worse i feel about everything-is that normal?
Please let me know if you have had similar happen and how you've coped coz its driving me a bit crazy!