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Post by xmas13 on Feb 19, 2017 14:01:31 GMT
Hi to everyone. I stupidly last night after a few drinks, no where near drunk so can't really use that as an excuse, I broke my no contact almost 4 weeks later and I cave in. He had sent me a messenger friend request in Dec that I hadn't responded to and I clicked on it, accept !!! Now on checking, he would have got a notification to say I accepted !!!!!! Totally furious with myself and I am trying to work out why I did that !!!! I have been getting on so well, not 100% but tying hard to switch my thoughts, to positive real life evens that are good in my life. He has been driving by my window every morning last week dropping his grandkids at school whilst his daughter is on holiday, he would never have done that before so why now ? I have also passed him in my car a few times of which I have just looked the other way, so what the hell am I doing I know it's wrong, I know he hurts me so bloody hell why !!!! I bought Lundy Brancrofts book " should I stay should I go " and it's a fantastic book, only a third through this and the info would point to him Having, a personality disorder, addictive personality, abuser, so why given all the work I have done my knowledge did I do this. Any help is very much appreciated thank you xx
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Post by janine on Feb 19, 2017 20:12:07 GMT
I totally understand.
It's not your fault. Even normal ex partners are contacted when someone is drunk. Try to not shame yourself.
You accepted the text and you can delete it. Just because we eat cake on a Sunday, does not mean we cannot go back to our healthy lifestyle on Monday.
You did not lose a game or competition - you did something very human and normal. It's hard to be 100% no contact.
Good self-care and self-compassion means to be kind to yourself now. Maybe to stay away from the drinks for a bit, and if that is hard, involve a counselor. I drank way too much after leaving my ex, and I can promise you that a sober lifestyle is wonderful.
it's not your fault. Be kind to yourself today.
it will be ok
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Post by xmas13 on Feb 19, 2017 21:26:54 GMT
Thanks janine, it's just self abuse I think that is also what my therapist says, but you are right I think I can go back in and block him, ehich I will do, just feeling really low tonight and feeling sick too, but thank you and I hope you are okay ? Xx
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Post by janine on Feb 20, 2017 0:13:54 GMT
Thanks xmas13, I am doing ok.
And you have my compassion. I've been there - hungover, waking up feeling awful, then comes the guilt/shame about having called my abusive ex the night before.
DV is crazymaking. It's not your fault.I replaced my phone twice back then just because I kept contacting him again and again after leaving. Leaving is a process, not an event. It takes time and it's never too late to do 'no contact' 100% again.
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Post by sarah on Feb 21, 2017 1:00:44 GMT
Yeah..don't beat yourself up xmas13..I've broken no contact a few times in the past too..this is my longest-5 weeks!I've got absolutely no interest in him at all now so I think that's what's kept me going..you need to get to that point too..And definitely try and steer clear from the alcohol-hard I know when you want to try and numb whatever thoughts or feelings you have but it will only make you feel worse or act in a way you would'nt when sober..I'm an expert on that one too-I got so drunk after a previous split that I went on a rampage and tried to stab my ex.He messed with my head so much that I wanted him to know about it.He tried getting me done for it a few weeks later.This time around I have'nt indulged in drunkeness.The clarity is there when sober and whatever you do while drunk will get used against you somehow.So just start the NC again,block him and keep reading.You will get stronger.
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Post by xmas13 on Feb 21, 2017 22:26:05 GMT
Thank you Sara and Janeen,
I managed 6 months before, then I text him because a friend had commuted suicide and I just couldn't handle it, that was maybe 2009 within the deep recision and straight away he was by my side, but as ever quickly the abuse began and on and on it has gone and it's now 2017 !! Our time together is getting shorter and shorter before it starts again, it's almost like you know what I am like, as if it's okay to abuse me again again and again. The last episode was so crazy, falling over me with what we could do for our future firstly I sell my business and go into business with him !!! I said we need to talk about this in more detail !!! Constantly calling me while I am at when I had said not too, then 3 days later ends it all because I had booked a photograph to do photos at a property and hadn't told him, he finished it in a breath, cancel or it's over !!!! I didn't cancel as i came to my senses, but I was in such a mess. I screemed at him to leave me alone all the while getting called a slut, cow, you name it and that's what happened all over a 3 week period or just less !!! It's head twisting existence being with an abuser a bar you will never ever reach, constantly on high alert honestly it's hell on earth !! But my therapist says I use him to self abuse !!!!!! And I do this when everything else in my life is good due to a deep routed belief that I don't deserve the goodness life has to offer me !!!! This too is messing with my head. I loved him so so much the feelings were overwhelming and it's so hard to understand even when I have read book after book seen the cycle in its truest form daily I still question my part and blame me !!! Please throw some hope and light on this ? Many thanks xx
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Post by karen on Feb 23, 2017 4:01:22 GMT
Hey xmas..it is ok. As Janine and Sarah have said..leaving is a process. It is a journey. It takes time, practice, and courage. It is not easy in any way. BUT it is possible as you have seen.
I think we blame ourselves so much because we have been "conditioned" to do so. If someone you love and trust told your their opinion everyday and you would literally do whatever they ask under the disguise of love you/me would do it. As you have experienced..your ex has told you over and over and over again that you are the cause of all that is wrong in the relationship. AND I suspect at some point in your early growing up years..your self esteem was not as nurtured as you needed it to be. SO over all these years...your thought processes and your self-esteem is all connected. The partners we choose continue to tell us what we have been lead to believe ever since childhood. Most victims of abuse as adults probably had some sort of hurt as a child by a trusted adult. My parents did not nurture my self esteem. In fact..they gave me the message on multiple occasions that all I tried to do was "never good enough". Fast forward to a teen and an adult and those people I chose to have in my life interacted with me in a way that would continue to feed that inner thought that everything I tried to do.."was never good enough". So, I was attracted to men who continued to foster that belief. ABUSERS.
I was never taught to love myself. I was taught to do for others because that is how you show you love them. I wanted to be loved...so I did whatever I had to do to get that love. I fell right into the hands of an ABUSER. I found a few guys that were just like my parents. Whatever I did was never good enough and I had to do whatever I could for someone to show them I loved them. BECAUSE if I did enough, and showed them how much I cared? Then they would give me the love back that I craved. It never works out that way in an ABUSIVE relationship.
You and many others..me included..are still in that cycle of trying to get the love from someone we have given everything to. AND we blame ourselves if we fall short of that because somehow..we never got the positive message that we are good enough. SO we keep trying. AND we keep blaming ourselves. WE may get some little bit of the love we want..but then we get all the abuse that comes with it. It continues to re-enforce the belief that we are to blame. UNTIL we break that cycle and start to love ourselves, we will continue to blame ourselves, to feel responsible for other's behavior, other's happiness, even being responsible for causing someone to abuse us.
We have to teach ourselves how to love us. The people we depended on to teach us early on in life are past the opportunity to help us learn. AND they would still not do it right anyway..we will still get hurt.
We have "loved" our ABUSERS for so long and with such intensity..it has become a habit. It is a habit we have to break and change and let go of. Your heart..in some ways has not stopped "loving" this man. Drug Addicts know the drug will kill them, yet they still love it and crave it and even occasionally try and take it again to get that feeling they crave. Substitute the word "drug" for our partners. We know in our head that it will never change, we know they are not good for us..it doesn't instantly mean we are going to stop loving them. We are addicted. AND this is where courage comes in..because we have to go NO CONTACT to help us break that habit and stop loving them.
It will be ok Xmas. You are on your journey to learning to love yourself and eventually will stop loving him. It takes time. Give yourself the time you need and realize that there isn't a set amount that everyone follows. Your journey is unique to you. TRUST YOUR JOURNEY..it will lead you to that happiness you seek, that NO CONTACT that you seek and that "self love and compassion" that we all need to figure out how to learn and do.
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